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What we’ve said about The psychiatrist's role

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In short

The psychiatrist works in the medical model: find a defined problem, lay out the options you are willing to prescribe, and advise without weighting the scales. We have far less power over outcomes than patients or training suggest, and being honest and humble about those limits is what protects patients and makes real help possible.

What the role is

  1. We operate within the medical model: we look for a problem that has been, or might be, defined medically and that has specific treatment recommendations.

    “we operate within the medical model. And in short, it means that we look for pathology. We look for a problem that might be defined medically or has been defined medically. that has specific treatment recommendations, okay”
    12:59Probably The Most Important Topic in Psychiatry: Therapeutic Alliance and FrameJan 2025
  2. The role is not to fix the problem and make the person happy with medications. It is to communicate their options: the ones we are willing to prescribe because we think the benefits outweigh the negatives.

    “I don't view my role as fix the problem, make the person happy, and everything's great with medications. I view my role as, in a sense, I'm communicating to them their options, the options I'm willing to prescribe because I don't think that, I think that the benefits outweigh the negatives”
    28:31Probably The Most Important Topic in Psychiatry: Therapeutic Alliance and FrameJan 2025
  3. Give advice and lend expertise in a pretty neutral fashion rather than putting weight on the scales in one direction or another.

    “your job is to give advice and to lend expertise to in a pretty much neutral fashion rather than putting weight on the scales in one direction or another”
    1:44Lessons from Forensic Psychiatry: Insanity Defense, Subtle Patients and CulpabilityApr 2025
  4. In psychiatry, as in pediatrics, the patient is not always the agent of the treatment. Sometimes it is a family member, society at large or the law.

    “in psychiatry, in voluntary psychiatry and also in pediatrics, the patient is not always the agent of the treatment. Sometimes the agent of the treatment is a family member, society at large, the law, anything”
    52:28Handling Difficult Situations in Psychiatry: ADHD Evaluations, Benzo Requests, Disability Claims, and Involuntary AdmissionsOct 2025
  5. In involuntary treatment, be both harder and easier on yourself. Easier, because you are not necessarily there to please the person in front of you.

    “I think you should be both harder and easier on yourself. I think you should be easier on yourself in the sense that you are not there to please the person in front of you necessarily”
    36:21Involuntary Treatment & Agency, Thoughts and Feelings | Episode 19Mar 2025

Knowing your limits

  1. We do not have much ability to change outcomes. We are a small piece of the system, and most of what happens with patients is determined by people who are not you.

    “We don't actually have that much ability to change outcomes. We're a small piece of this system, this machine, and most of what happens with patients is determined by actions of people who are not you”
    37:25Tips to Avoid Burnout in Psychiatry (Outpatient, mostly)Mar 2026
  2. We cannot really control or prevent bad outcomes. We will see suffering we want to change and cannot, and part of the role is learning to accept that.

    “We cannot really control or prevent bad outcomes. We're going to see suffering. We're going to want to change it and we're not going to be able to change it. That's life”
    37:55Tips to Avoid Burnout in Psychiatry (Outpatient, mostly)Mar 2026
    Also said in 1 more episode
    “there's going to be suffering that you can't, there's nothing you can do about. And part of our role is learning to accept that there's not anything that we can do about that suffering”
    40:40Tips to Avoid Burnout in Psychiatry (Outpatient, mostly)Mar 2026
  3. Knowing what you can and cannot do is protective. It frees you to give everyone your best care without overextending in ways that do not help, keeps your care honest and makes you less likely to get wrapped up in an enactment that hurts the patient.

    “is really protective because, as you're saying, it gives you the freedom to actually provide the best care to everyone because you're not overextending yourselves in ways that aren't productive for the patient”
    38:42Tips to Avoid Burnout in Psychiatry (Outpatient, mostly)Mar 2026
    Also said in 1 more episode
    “By understanding what you can and can't do, you provide honest care and you're less susceptible to getting enmeshed or getting wrapped up in some enactment that is probably going to hurt the patient”
    39:51Tips to Avoid Burnout in Psychiatry (Outpatient, mostly)Mar 2026
  4. Be confident and humble in your limitations. You can tell a patient that what they are bringing up is important even when it is not something you treat.

    “it's such a helpful thing to realize, to know your limitations and to be, in a sense, confident and humble in your limitations. And that you can say, the things you're bringing up, they're important”
    39:35Probably The Most Important Topic in Psychiatry: Therapeutic Alliance and FrameJan 2025
  5. Be genuine about how little power we have to help people. That is where helping can actually start: "This is basically what I can do for you."

    “we really do need to be genuine in how little power we have uh to help people and then that's where we can actually start helping people if we can say to them You know, this is basically what I can do for you”
    27:26Probably The Most Important Topic in Psychiatry: Therapeutic Alliance and FrameJan 2025

Talking to patients

  1. Know the general effect size of an SSRI and do not oversell it. Overselling gives people the false impression that this is a powerful medication that will change their problems.

    “You really got to know what the general effect size of SSRI is. You shouldn't oversell it, right? Because if you oversell it, you're going to give people the false impression that this is a powerful medication that's going to change your problems”
    39:10Tips to Avoid Burnout in Psychiatry (Outpatient, mostly)Mar 2026
  2. Tell patients they will have to tell you whether a medication is helpful for them, because that differs with every patient.

    “You'll have to tell me if it's something that's helpful for you or not. Mm-hmm. And that's going to be different with every patient”
    32:27Affective Neuroscience: Understanding Patients Beyond DSM DiagnosesAug 2026Guest episode

Pitfalls and myths

  1. Clinicians get frustrated when they see the relationship as the patient arriving with a lack that the clinician must find and supply.

    “the patient-clinician relationship is one where the patient comes in with a lack, okay? There's something that they're lacking or they don't have and that your job as a clinician is to find that thing and give it to them”
    29:51Probably The Most Important Topic in Psychiatry: Therapeutic Alliance and FrameJan 2025
  2. Patients may think you are a therapist who is there to listen, rather than someone figuring out what is medically going on, recommending treatments and leading them through those treatments.

    “they might, for example, think that you're what they think is a therapist, right? That instead of trying to figure out what is medically going on and to recommend treatments and to lead them through those treatments, that you're there to listen, for example”
    11:53Probably The Most Important Topic in Psychiatry: Therapeutic Alliance and FrameJan 2025
  3. Psychiatrists are used to finding and fixing fairly discrete pathologies. For people who want to optimize, or who do not have a specific pathology, medication management may not be the best treatment, and that is okay; there are no rigorously tested optimization studies to tell them what will work.

    “The psychiatrist is used to finding pretty discrete pathologies often and fixing them. And for people who want to optimize or don't have specific pathologies – psychiatrists and the role of medication management and all that entails might not it's not the best treatment for everyone and that's okay”
    14:11Probably The Most Important Topic in Psychiatry: Therapeutic Alliance and FrameJan 2025
    Also said in 1 more episode
    “we don't have optimization studies that have been rigorously tested across different populations so that we can say this is probably going to work for you this is probably not going to work for you everything's very nebulous even more so for optimization than for treatment of pathology”
    15:01Probably The Most Important Topic in Psychiatry: Therapeutic Alliance and FrameJan 2025
  4. In first-year inpatient training it feels like your entire job is getting the patient to take medication. That can spill over into outpatient years, and it is not our role.

    “first year residency is inpatient, where it feels like your entire job is get patient to take medication. And sometimes that can spill over into the future outpatient years. And that's not our role”
    51:24Probably The Most Important Topic in Psychiatry: Therapeutic Alliance and FrameJan 2025

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