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What we’ve said about Thought disorder

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Also searched as formal thought disorder, disorganization, TALD

In short

Thought disorganization, along with disorganized behavior and negative symptoms, is one of the stronger signs of a primary psychotic disorder. Most training teaches too few categories of it, so read the TALD scale to learn what you are looking for, and remember that mania can look similar.

Why it matters for diagnosis

  1. Clear disorganized behavior or speech, thought disorganization and negative symptoms are what make us reasonably sure we are looking at a primary psychotic disorder.

    “when we're reasonably sure that we have evidence to support a primary psychotic disorder of some kind, you know. And for me, it's when you see clear disorganized behaviors or speech. thought disorganization, right, and if you also see negative symptoms”
    27:01What is Psychosis? Look at the DSM, Common Mimics, and a Framework for the DifferentialJan 2026

How we assess it

  1. The Thought and Language Disorder scale (TALD) walks through the objective positive phenomena one by one: derailment, tangentiality, circumstantiality, crosstalk, logorrhea, pressured speech, paraphasias, neologisms, perseveration, poverty of content and more.

    “the tall goes through objective phenomena that are positive. So positive things there, it goes through like derailment, tangentiality, circumstantiality, cross talk, logeria, pressured speech, paraphages, neologisms, perseveration, poverty of content”
    11:14What Makes a Belief a Delusion? Delusions, Thought Disorder, the TALD ScaleJan 2026
  2. Read the TALD even if you disagree with some of its definitions. If you believe at all in predictive coding, you cannot recognize something until you know it is there to be recognized.

    “if you believe at all in Bayesian theory or the theory of predictive coding, you're really not going to be able to recognize something until you know that it's there to be recognized”
    12:19What Makes a Belief a Delusion? Delusions, Thought Disorder, the TALD ScaleJan 2026

Pitfalls

  1. Many residents are taught only three or four levels of disorganization: linear, circumstantial, tangential. That is not sufficient.

    “I think that in modern day training, a lot of residents are basically taught three levels of disorganization, or maybe four. You have linear, non-disorganized, you have circumstantial, disorganized, and then you have tangential, fairly disorganized. That's really not sufficient”
    10:03What Makes a Belief a Delusion? Delusions, Thought Disorder, the TALD ScaleJan 2026
  2. Mania can mimic it: fast, distractible, rushing thoughts and speech can look like thought disorder.

    “even bipolar mania can mimic psychotic features uh the speed of distractible thoughts, rushing thoughts and speech can appear and has been defined in the literature as thought disorientation”
    7:11What Makes a Belief a Delusion? Delusions, Thought Disorder, the TALD ScaleJan 2026

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