What We’ve Said

What we’ve said about Exercise

12 points from 7 episodes, newest first

Also searched as physical activity, aerobic exercise

In short

Exercise helps mood, anxiety and sleep, and it ranks with behavioral activation, light and psychotherapy among the most important treatments for depression. Prescribe the smallest routine the patient will actually keep, based on what they are willing to do.

Why we recommend it

  1. Exercise helps mood, anxiety and sleep. It is a crucial pillar of health.

    “Exercise helps mood. It helps anxiety. It helps sleep. It just is such a crucial pillar of your health”
    5:46Beyond Medications: The Best Lifestyle Treatments for Mental HealthFeb 2025
  2. The most important "medications" for depression are behavioral activation, exercise, light exposure and psychotherapy.

    “the most important, quote, medications for depression are behavioral activation, exercise, light exposure, and psychotherapy”
    43:39Treating Depression: Practical Tips & Pearls for Anti-Depressant MedicationsJan 2025
  3. For OCD, moderate-intensity aerobic exercise has really good data. It is not easy to get people to do, but it is worth mentioning.

    “the only other thing I think is worth mentioning, not medication, is moderate intensity aerobic exercise. That's really good data. Obviously, not an easy thing to get people to do, but worth mentioning for sure”
    33:18Practical OCD Psychopharmacology: Evidence‑Based (& Non Evidence-Based) Medication ApproachAug 2025
  4. For sleep: if you have not spent your energy during the day, by night it goes into ruminations or simply not being able to fall asleep.

    “If you have not expended your energy... By the end of the day, that energy will be spent on ruminations, thoughts, or just simply not being able to fall asleep. You've got too much energy”
    14:49Sleep Medications Treatment Tier List: Best Insomnia Medications RankedAug 2026
  5. In ADHD, physical exercise, breathing and meditation all help better engage the task-positive network, so they are things a patient can work on.

    “I also like the idea that there's things that you can do to make sure you better engage your task positive network. You know, different forms of breathing, meditation, physical exercise. These are all things that better engage your task positive network. So it's things that you can work on if you have ADHD”
    21:10ADHD... Diagnosis, What is ADHD? Is ADHD real? Do I have ADHD? Is ADHD biological?Sep 2024
  6. In bipolar disorder, physical activity is a great tool for targeting depression in a way that does not run the risk of inducing mixed states, more cycling or mania.

    “Mood, trying to target depression, particularly in bipolar, in doing so, In a way that does not run the risk of inducing mixed states and more recycling and mania. Physical activity is just a great tool”
    1:13:51How to Stabilize Mood without Medications: Social Rhythm Therapy Anyone Can Use with Dr. Jim PhelpsNov 2026Guest episode

How we prescribe it

  1. Keep it small and sustainable. A two-minute walk outside five days a week is better than a plan for the perfect workout that never gets done.

    “Go to your door and open it with your shoes on. Walk for seven and a half minutes in any direction and then walk home. Do that every day”
    1:14:40How to Stabilize Mood without Medications: Social Rhythm Therapy Anyone Can Use with Dr. Jim PhelpsNov 2026Guest episode
    Also said in 2 more episodes
    “I would rather a patient do a two-minute walk outside five days a week then do something that's not sustainable”
    6:57Beyond Medications: The Best Lifestyle Treatments for Mental HealthFeb 2025
    “It's so much better to go for a walk five times a week than it is to plan to get that perfect exercise, but it's not actually going to get done”
    17:06Beyond Medications: The Best Lifestyle Treatments for Mental HealthFeb 2025
  2. Do not set patients up to expect to enjoy it. Hope they do, but have them act without that expectation, and base the plan on what they are willing to do.

    “I don't want to set people up to expect to enjoy things at all. I hope they enjoy it. But I want them to act without the expectation of enjoyment. So I just I just base it off. What are you willing to do”
    15:28Beyond Medications: The Best Lifestyle Treatments for Mental HealthFeb 2025
  3. An exercise partner can be the thing that keeps a routine going.

    “The only time I'm able to keep up these things is when I'm doing it with other people, when it's exciting, when I'm sharing it with other people”
    1:16:28How to Stabilize Mood without Medications: Social Rhythm Therapy Anyone Can Use with Dr. Jim PhelpsNov 2026
    Also said in 1 more episode
    “the only thing that allowed me to keep up with an exercise routine was was an exercise partner”
    17:26Beyond Medications: The Best Lifestyle Treatments for Mental HealthFeb 2025
  4. Do not make people think physical activity means going to a gym. That is very low yield: few will actually sign up, let alone keep it up once they go.

    “making people think that in order to get physical activity, you have to go to a gym. That is so low yield in terms of the probability people are actually going to sign up and let alone keep it up once they go”
    1:14:09How to Stabilize Mood without Medications: Social Rhythm Therapy Anyone Can Use with Dr. Jim PhelpsNov 2026Guest episode
  5. Look for a physical activity the patient used to do that was fun, and work out how to build it back into their life so it is not a chore.

    “finding the physical activity that you maybe used to do that is fun and then figuring out how to build that back into your life so that physical activity is not a chore”
    1:15:39How to Stabilize Mood without Medications: Social Rhythm Therapy Anyone Can Use with Dr. Jim PhelpsNov 2026Guest episode

A skeptical note

  1. When patients with anxiety improve a lot with exercise, it may not be the exercise itself: they may be entering flow states and practicing mindfulness without meaning to.

    “I think when you see that level of improvement, it's not the exercise. It's because they're inadvertently entering flow states. They're inadvertently practicing mindfulness”
    41:12Anxiety Medications Tier List: The Best and Worst Treatments for GADJul 2026

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